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Hello
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and welcome to Elisha’s Eerie History.
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before I started today’s episode,
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I wanted to do a little bit of housekeeping.
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This is Elisha Eerie History’s first ever
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live recording.
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I was invited to the Virginia Museum of Transportation,
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and in this episode I’m going to be addressing the audience,
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and the audience is going to be addressing me,
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and we had some really magical,
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moments of fun and laughing,
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but because of that,
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when I addressed the audience.
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It’s at the beginning and then do a Q&A section at the end.
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The audio is a little different than what
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you’re gonna be used to from previous episodes.
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If you want to skip straight to the story,
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which has the consistent audio,
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you can jump to 449,
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4 minutes 49 seconds.
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And then the story will be as usual from there
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and if you don’t want to listen to the audio at the very end,
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the Q&A where it’s a little echoey,
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it’s that’s gonna be 30 minutes even you can jump to.
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Otherwise this episode
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um is gonna have some really awesome moments
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and I’m really excited we got this opportunity.
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Thank you to Alicia
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um at the Museum of Transportation.
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she was fabulous to work with.
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And you might also be asking Elisha,
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where have you been?
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Oh my gosh,
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I know,
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so sorry about that.
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I lost someone really special to me in my life,
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around the time the last episode went out and I
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just haven’t been able to get back out there,
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um,
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but I moved,
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I’m good now.
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and I’m excited to jump back into it,
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so I hope you can continue enjoying Elisha’s Eerie History with me.
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I’ve had episodes recorded,
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back in June when the last one came out,
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and so
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I have a lot to keep sharing with you,
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and I’m happy to be back,
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so stay tuned for more.
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And without further ado,
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let’s get into it.
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‘Elisha’s Eerie History Intro’ plays by Sydney Branham
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Okay, Hello how are you guys doing today?
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Good, how are you?
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I’m good, I’m good.
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Thank you, thank you.
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My name is Elisha,
my podcast is Elisha’s Eerie History
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And I’m so excited
to have you all here today.
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Thank you.
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So a little bit about me
and about the podcast.
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I’m originally from Lynchburg, Virginia,
and then I moved
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to Charlottesville for a little bit,
and now I live in Nova.
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I know.
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So I’m a Virginian through
and through.
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I started the podcast
because I really wanted to do community
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engagement
and support grassroot organizations.
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A lot of our episodes are about smaller
nonprofits.
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We’re going to do one
with Wild Virginia coming up.
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We have some in Shenandoah National Park.
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So a lot of Virginia stuff.
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It’s super fun and exciting.
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And if you’re into history- Even better.
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It does get a little spooky
if you like spooky stuff.
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Some are worst spooky than others,
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but, I’m very excited
to have you all here today.
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To tell you a little. Bit
about the setup of the podcast.
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We always start with reviews of the place
we’re at.
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So we’re going to do reviews.
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Read the Google reviews
for the Virginia Museum of Transportation.
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And then we’re going
to get into the story.
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Today’s story is going to be Ol’ 97,
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which was a train locomotive
that had a terrible accident.
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So we’ll get a little bit more into that.
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I also introduce my guest here today.
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But I also wanted to give you guys
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a little run of the event
and the structure at the event today.
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So I’m here until 630.
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There’s going to be
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the band ‘Paul’ on the railyard stage,
which is outside.
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That’s going to be from 7
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to 9 with a break at eight,
and there’s a costume contest at eight.
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But I’m the only one in the costume,
so you guys aren’t going to win.
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Okay.
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There’s also going to be,
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I saw as you walked
in, there’s dessert tastings, beer, wine.
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There’s going to be a food truck
from 5 to 9 might of already seen that.
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And then the paranormal investigations
are happening throughout the night.
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I definitely plan on being one.
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It sounds super cool.
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So maybe we’ll be on
a paranormal investigation together.
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So thank you again
for coming out tonight.
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We have a delightful
evening ahead, and I’m excited to dive in
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Hand you this.
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And- Hit it Kaylene!
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‘Elisha’s Eerie History Intro’ plays by Sydney Branham
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That’s our little audio logo for you guys.
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‘Elisha’s Eerie History’ Intro plays by Sydney Branham
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Today I have the pleasure of welcoming a guest of the pod.
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my guest is Barbara Rypkema.
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Barbara is a former school board member.
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She’s worked,
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and collaborated with school transportation in Lynchburg,
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Virginia
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she currently works as the associate or excuse me,
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assistant director of finance for Lynchburg City Schools
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and she is a passionate community advocate.
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Education is one of her passions and that’s why I
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thought it would be appropriate to bring her here today.
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She has extensive experience in the grassroots organization we talked
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about and I’m so excited to have her today.
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Do you want anything you wanna tell them?
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Well,
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just thanks for having me.
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I thought I was gonna have to beg and plead and crawl
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on my knees to get you to invite me at some point.
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Yeah,
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she’s been asking for a while.
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I haven’t,
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I’ve done so many other people and it’s been a minute.
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I haven’t had
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Barbara on yet,
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so I’m so happy to have her here today.
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So.
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Let’s get into
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the reviews of the Virginia Museum of Transportation.
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Have you guys been here before?
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Anyone been here before?
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You guys been here before?
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You guys have been here before?
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OK,
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cool.
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You guys live in Roanoke?
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What’s the story?
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Yeah,
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you guys?
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OK,
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cool.
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Do you guys come here a lot?
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Not,
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not so much.
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We’re just lucky,
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we’re blessed to have you today.
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Well,
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it’s my first time here personally.
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My first time,
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first time too,
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my first time,
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yeah,
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for those who are live streaming,
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you can’t see,
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but there’s these beautiful antique cars surrounding us and it’s awesome to see.
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there’s also locomotives.
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I’m excited to explore and see the whole thing.
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So without a further ado,
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let’s get into the Google reviews.
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OK,
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so
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the Virginia Museum of Transportation has 4.6 out of 5 stars.
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That’s pretty good.
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There’s 1600 reviews,
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so that’s even better.
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Joe Bailey said
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5 stars,
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5 out of 5,
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and he said there’s a lot to see here.
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Many locomotives and rail cars are beautifully restored.
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There are some rare ones and some that are just plain beautiful.
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I enjoyed the road vehicles a lot.
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There were cars,
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buses,
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fire engines,
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aircraft,
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mockups.
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It was all fascinating.
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Yeah,
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seems like a car guy.
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Definitely.
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Linda Marie only gave us 4 out of 5 stars.
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Linda said really great museum that was accessible on the main floor and outside.
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Exhibits are well done and comprehensive.
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it would have been nice to see the history of trains outside of just statistics.
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I guess I can understand that,
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but statistics are basically kind of what drives things.
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Yeah,
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and you’re,
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you’re finance,
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you like the numbers,
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right?
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What can I say?
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Numbers move the world.
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and then our last review is gonna be Whitney Miller Nichols.
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Uh,
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she gave it 5 out of 5 stars.
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She’s had a great family friendly museum,
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also appealing for those without kids.
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I know tonight’s a
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more PG 13
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night.
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and the gift shop with a good mix of 1218,
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611 swag,
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which are different locomotives.
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Several rail cars are open for visitors to walk through,
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though not wheelchair accessible.
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Admission under $15 so
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a good deal.
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Before we get into the story,
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what do you know about trains?
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Any,
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I know you’ve ridden train,
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any train experiences you wanna share with our audience?
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I grew up actually in Oklahoma and my
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grandmother lived about this far from a train track
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and so she literally watched trains come through and it was one
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of those that when I would take the kids and my husband,
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the first train that came through at 3:12
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a.m. they would all hit the ceilings like cats
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because it would scare them so bad whereas me,
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I grew up with it
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didn’t faze me in the least.
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Oh,
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my brother was hit by a train once and survived.
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Toatled his truck,
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sent him through the windshield,
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but he survived.
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That’s about all the train experience I have.
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I love Amtrak.
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I take it all the time.
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OK,
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cool.
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Tell me more about your brother getting hit by the train.
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Was
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Was he alone?
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What was going on?
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Did the car stall out,
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or?
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no,
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my grandmother,
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as I said,
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was right next to the train tracks,
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and he was leaving her house and he was headed out,
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across the tracks to get to the other half of the town that I come from
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and.
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There are like 6 crossings in this town and
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with the sun just right you can’t always see the
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trains coming and he just didn’t see or hear the
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train and he was crossing there right at her corner
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and she had just gone back inside and then she
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remembers hearing a a loud crash and then metal scraping
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and she ran out and she recognized his truck and
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she ran over there and thought for sure he was,
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he was
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deceased because I mean it wasn’t uncommon in my little town for
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us to lose about a person a year due to trains.
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and so she thought he was probably the next casualty and luckily he wasn’t,
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but I mean this happened,
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he was
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1617 when this happened,
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and he’s now in his early 50s and every so
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often he’ll like be rubbing on his leg or something
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and still pull a piece of glass out that had
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been buried in his skin from the drain wreck.
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Oh wow,
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wow,
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that’s that’s that’s quite the story.
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And I guess this was a more rural area,
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so they didn’t have the
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arms that go down to stop you from driving on the tracks.
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No,
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at that point in time there weren’t the arms.
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I mean
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we used to go out and walk along the tracks and
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play on the tracks because
my grandmother would lived right in front of
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an elevator and so the trains of course
came through the elevator
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because it was a farming community and so I mean we,
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we spent time playing on the tracks and everything else so it’s just.
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Trains were weren’t necessarily scary to us.
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OK,
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OK,
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gotcha.
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Yeah,
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trains are a little scary,
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I guess when you see all those.
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Things go down.
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So,
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um,
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got you,
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got you.
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That’s a crazy train story.
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I didn’t know that.
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my train experiences,
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I,
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I take the Amtrak sometimes.
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You guys take the Amtrak out in the audience?
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Yeah,
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there’s that one that comes here to Roanoke now.
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Yeah,
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isn’t that convenient?
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It hasn’t always been like that,
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right?
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No,
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that’s pretty new,
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right?
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3 to 4 years?
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OK,
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cool,
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cool.
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Yeah,
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I do like the train.
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Your story is crazy,
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but the story we’re gonna dive into today
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is even crazier.
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So has anyone here heard of Old 97?
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No?
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OK.
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There’s a couple of songs written about it.
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We’ll get into it later.
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It’s a pretty famous
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train story.
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they have locomotives similar to the one we’re gonna talk about today,
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throughout the museum.
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so without further ado,
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let me start our story.
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The year was 1903,
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September 21st,
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so seven days after today,
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years and years and years ago,
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there was a train accident in Danville,
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Virginia.
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I’m sure we’re all familiar with Danville,
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Virginia.
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And so
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back in the day,
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it was really hard to get your mail on time.
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Familiar story,
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right?
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I thought it was pretty hard to get your mail
on time sometimes now.
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We,
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we were supposed to have a,
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like speaking,
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we were supposed to have a tablecloth with like the logo on it today.
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Guess what?
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The mail.
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So
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I know
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save story and it hasn’t changed much,
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but back in 1903,
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it was even worse if you could imagine.
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So back in the day,
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how people received their mail was primarily by train
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and they had custom fitted train cars on the locomotives
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that essentially acted
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like.
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mini mail rooms.
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So people worked
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in the car and organized the mail,
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so when they got to the train station,
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the mail
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would be ready to get off the train as quickly as possible,
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organized and sorted and all of that.
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And so the mail just,
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it was like.
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Cars or something that just moved off the train and it was all boxed and ready to go and
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yeah,
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so the custom mail room so the people in it and they,
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yeah they organized it and the cars,
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yeah it was all ready to go
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and the reason they did this was because they wanted the
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mail to get around faster that was the primary form of communication
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back then
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that was how.
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People received their mail,
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these custom mail cars,
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and the United States Postal Service would fine the trains
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if the mail was even an hour late.
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They would find the trains up to
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$200 for the mail being late.
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$200 that’s what,
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almost $5000 in today’s
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inflation?
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Yeah,
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so the calculation is about $5000.
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Yeah,
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so
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imagine it’s 1903 and
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you are a
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railroad and keep in mind it’s not as extensive as it was today,
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much smaller,
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they’re still developing and building
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and you’re also getting these government contracts
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and you’re getting fined for every hour that your mail is late.
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So how much was the government contract worth?
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The average government contract was only $1400.
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So if you’re getting fined $200 for every hour,
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your mail is late,
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that’s not a really good deal.
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so that’s how our mail got around.
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That’s setting the scene.
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You can imagine that’s a stressful situation to be under.
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I’m sure,
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I mean,
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I know at my job deadlines are crazy.
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I couldn’t imagine
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moving mail
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in the 1900s
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with these crazy deadlines. When the train is going through the mountains,
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what are our options?
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Over
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Or through.
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You guys are so good.
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And so to go through you had to blow up a mountain,
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00:14:28,968 –> 00:14:29,535
right?
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Not very,
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not very easy to do
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and so the two ways people or the two ways great train
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systems developed was going through mountains or creating trestles which went.
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In between mountains and you kind of just guided in between the mountains that
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way and so our story has to do with the train trestle and a disaster
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involving a train trestle.
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We all live in the Blue Ridge Mountains.
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We’ve all
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almost fallen off the road,
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I’m sure going over some mountains,
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so at least I have.
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00:15:01,433 –> 00:15:01,967
Oh dear Lord.
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00:15:03,469 –> 00:15:03,602
We,
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we’re on the way here from Charlottesville.
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I don’t know if you’ve done that drive from Charlottesville to Roanoke,
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but
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it was,
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it was,
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we were going over quite the mountains.
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It was terrifying.
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Our
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train stations today,
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the old 97,
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delivered
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mail from Washington DC to Atlanta,
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and
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as we said,
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they’re getting charged $200 every hour
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and so.
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Our train today,
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on September 21st,
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1903
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is on the way from Washington DC
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to
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Atlanta and it stopped in Lynchburg
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to get more water into the locomotive.
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The Train at this point is already an hour behind and they’re switching conductors.
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The original conductor for the train was delayed because there were other train
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delays and so who ended up driving the train that day was engineer
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Steve Brody.
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Steve Brody was from Lynchburg,
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Virginia,
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but he actually did most of his train conducting experiences on the East Coast,
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which is much,
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much flatter.
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So
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Steve
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was brought onto the.
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Southern Railway Company that did the Washington DC to
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Atlanta trip every single day and this was his uh
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one of his first times driving the train through the
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Blue Ridge Mountains in the southern part of Virginia.
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His story is quite,
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quite sad so
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his dispatchers is like we’re gonna get charged so much money
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we’re already an hour late we could have more delays.
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You need to get this train as quickly as possible
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to
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Atlanta.
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As he’s hurling down the train
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tracks,
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he’s going,
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remembering your trip from Charlottesville earlier on.
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Yeah,
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I was,
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I was hurling down the way to get here.
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You guys don’t want to see me out there.
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It’s a blue Honda watch.
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So,
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uh,
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his director Sam,
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the dispatcher Sam is like,
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you gotta pick up speed,
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we’re gonna lose money
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and so he’s like,
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I got you,
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we’re gonna get us there on time,
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don’t even worry about it.
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And this wasn’t uncommon.
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There were always delays.
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This was a pretty,
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pretty standard thing.
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So
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he’s coming down from Lynchburg headed to Danville
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and right before he hits Danville,
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there’s this
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sharp turn over a trellis.
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And
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he’s going about 50,
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55
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MPH,
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and the train
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jumps the tracks.
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So,
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Joe Morgan was a witness of the event that night.
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He lived on the other side of the trellis
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with his wife and his mother,
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and they are one of the few eyewitnesses
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that witnessed
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00:17:48,567 –> 00:17:49,435
the disaster.
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And oh.
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00:17:51,003 –> 00:17:53,605
Context this is happening in the middle of the night too.
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This is an overnight train
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00:17:55,340 –> 00:17:57,276
so it’s not happening during the day
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and farmers and rural folks set their alarms to the train,
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00:18:02,748 –> 00:18:05,250
which is why they’re up because the train was that,
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00:18:05,384 –> 00:18:05,984
you know,
531
00:18:06,285 –> 00:18:09,054
on time because of these uh fines that they
532
00:18:10,155 –> 00:18:12,424
always made sure to get up and set their alarm to the train.
533
00:18:12,424 –> 00:18:14,893
The train comes at this time we’re setting our alarm to this time,
534
00:18:15,260 –> 00:18:16,595
so Joe Morgan.
535
00:18:17,129 –> 00:18:20,899
One of the witnesses was sitting out waiting for the train as he always does
536
00:18:21,100 –> 00:18:22,067
with his mother
537
00:18:22,367 –> 00:18:29,108
and he said we went outside every day to see old 97 go by and that day it never went by.
538
00:18:29,575 –> 00:18:30,409
According to Joe,
539
00:18:30,476 –> 00:18:31,043
the train,
540
00:18:31,076 –> 00:18:33,078
it made it right before the trestle and jumped
541
00:18:33,078 –> 00:18:36,014
off the trestle about 300 ft before the bridge.
542
00:18:36,315 –> 00:18:38,317
It fell from the top of the trestle
543
00:18:38,584 –> 00:18:41,787
all the way down into this deep gorge.
544
00:18:42,020 –> 00:18:42,955
Just ooh ooh.
545
00:18:43,055 –> 00:18:44,156
It was right.
546
00:18:44,356 –> 00:18:45,624
According to Joe,
547
00:18:45,858 –> 00:18:46,125
uh,
548
00:18:46,125 –> 00:18:48,193
the wreckage was everywhere.
549
00:18:48,227 –> 00:18:50,496
It was obviously a very loud crash,
550
00:18:50,762 –> 00:18:54,233
and he said it felt like in the middle of the gorge.
551
00:18:54,266 –> 00:18:56,201
It didn’t like have like a small jump.
552
00:18:56,268 –> 00:19:00,372
It did a whole jump and dived into the middle of the gorge.
553
00:19:00,606 –> 00:19:04,676
Like on TV movies where they just magically fall into the center.
554
00:19:05,344 –> 00:19:06,111
According to Joe,
555
00:19:06,178 –> 00:19:06,278
yeah.
556
00:19:06,778 –> 00:19:07,279
OK.
557
00:19:07,579 –> 00:19:08,981
The wreckage was.
558
00:19:09,615 –> 00:19:10,282
Awful.
559
00:19:10,716 –> 00:19:11,750
At the bottom of the gorge,
560
00:19:11,817 –> 00:19:14,553
there was it was strung all about.
561
00:19:14,686 –> 00:19:17,189
There was terrible mail everywhere,
562
00:19:17,356 –> 00:19:19,758
locomotive pieces over here and unfortunately,
563
00:19:19,858 –> 00:19:20,859
there were also
564
00:19:21,660 –> 00:19:22,261
Human
565
00:19:22,528 –> 00:19:24,096
pieces scattered about.
566
00:19:24,229 –> 00:19:27,266
A fun fact is the shipment was carrying canaries.
567
00:19:28,300 –> 00:19:29,101
To Atlanta
568
00:19:30,202 –> 00:19:31,637
Canaries as in tweet tweet.
569
00:19:32,171 –> 00:19:33,405
Canaries as in tweet tweet.
570
00:19:33,472 –> 00:19:35,107
There were birds on the train,
571
00:19:35,541 –> 00:19:37,276
and according to Joe,
572
00:19:37,376 –> 00:19:38,911
he took advantage of this
573
00:19:39,178 –> 00:19:42,247
and when the remnants of the train finally cooled off,
574
00:19:42,748 –> 00:19:44,883
he got a canary for his mother
575
00:19:45,050 –> 00:19:48,020
who kept it as a pet until it’s passing.
576
00:19:48,187 –> 00:19:52,291
So there is a bright light in this story for Joe at least.
577
00:19:55,027 –> 00:19:55,694
So,
578
00:19:55,827 –> 00:19:59,998
so does Virginia now have an invasive species of canary because of this?
579
00:20:00,465 –> 00:20:00,766
Um,
580
00:20:01,033 –> 00:20:04,303
no invasive canary species that I know about.
581
00:20:04,536 –> 00:20:05,404
However,
582
00:20:05,571 –> 00:20:08,941
Virginia does have invasive parrots,
583
00:20:09,141 –> 00:20:13,011
which is another episode of Alicia’s eerie history that you guys.
584
00:20:13,111 –> 00:20:15,113
I want to tune into it’s coming out not
585
00:20:15,113 –> 00:20:18,517
this next month but the following month with Wild Virginia
586
00:20:19,084 –> 00:20:20,319
so tune in.
587
00:20:20,686 –> 00:20:23,188
There used to be parrots all throughout Virginia.
588
00:20:23,288 –> 00:20:24,056
Did you know that?
589
00:20:24,957 –> 00:20:27,359
It was called the North American parakeet,
590
00:20:27,559 –> 00:20:31,263
so you guys will have to tune in to find out more about the North American parakeet.
591
00:20:32,931 –> 00:20:33,298
Anyways,
592
00:20:33,532 –> 00:20:34,466
you’re getting me off topic.
593
00:20:34,666 –> 00:20:35,100
Sorry.
594
00:20:36,301 –> 00:20:37,769
Back to the old ’97,
595
00:20:37,836 –> 00:20:38,203
so.
596
00:20:39,238 –> 00:20:41,273
Joe reported the incident,
597
00:20:42,040 –> 00:20:43,408
got his canary going,
598
00:20:43,442 –> 00:20:46,278
and then he and a couple of his local
599
00:20:46,678 –> 00:20:48,880
farmers inspected the remains.
600
00:20:49,147 –> 00:20:50,048
In total,
601
00:20:50,349 –> 00:20:52,584
unfortunately 12 people passed away.
602
00:20:53,151 –> 00:20:53,385
Uh,
603
00:20:53,452 –> 00:20:56,822
7 people did survive but with major injuries.
604
00:20:57,189 –> 00:20:57,356
Uh,
605
00:20:57,389 –> 00:20:59,424
the people that did survive were at the back of the train.
606
00:20:59,691 –> 00:21:00,192
So,
607
00:21:00,559 –> 00:21:02,294
and you know what they say if you’re in the back of a plane,
608
00:21:02,561 –> 00:21:03,762
you’re more likely to survive.
609
00:21:03,829 –> 00:21:04,263
So
610
00:21:05,063 –> 00:21:06,665
Apparently that’s true for a train too then.
611
00:21:06,765 –> 00:21:07,799
True for a train too.
612
00:21:09,034 –> 00:21:11,670
Although there’s a story out of Lynchburg about a train
613
00:21:11,937 –> 00:21:13,438
where the back of the train was
614
00:21:13,672 –> 00:21:16,141
disconnected and the people died in the back of the train too,
615
00:21:16,208 –> 00:21:17,442
you may want to look that one up.
616
00:21:17,843 –> 00:21:18,777
OK.
617
00:21:19,311 –> 00:21:20,679
I think I heard about that.
618
00:21:20,812 –> 00:21:22,147
Is this something to do with
619
00:21:22,781 –> 00:21:24,049
JPMorgan Chase?
620
00:21:24,416 –> 00:21:25,217
Something like that?
621
00:21:25,417 –> 00:21:25,584
Yeah,
622
00:21:25,717 –> 00:21:28,654
he attended the funeral of the railroad baron that was killed.
623
00:21:29,021 –> 00:21:29,421
OK,
624
00:21:29,554 –> 00:21:29,955
OK,
625
00:21:30,222 –> 00:21:30,489
cool.
626
00:21:30,589 –> 00:21:31,223
I didn’t,
627
00:21:31,323 –> 00:21:32,224
I don’t know much about that,
628
00:21:32,257 –> 00:21:32,958
but I have heard of that.
629
00:21:33,058 –> 00:21:36,028
I think maybe there’s something in the exhibits here about that so
630
00:21:37,729 –> 00:21:42,934
he when Joe and his co-farmers or rural folk
631
00:21:43,235 –> 00:21:44,970
evaluated the wreckage,
632
00:21:45,203 –> 00:21:48,440
they found the conductor’s body
633
00:21:48,740 –> 00:21:50,175
and the conductor was
634
00:21:50,642 –> 00:21:51,777
had one hand,
635
00:21:52,110 –> 00:21:52,577
uh,
636
00:21:52,811 –> 00:21:53,412
stuck
637
00:21:53,612 –> 00:21:55,414
to the throttle of the train
638
00:21:55,714 –> 00:21:56,948
and the other hand
639
00:21:57,182 –> 00:21:58,617
was stuck to the whistle.
640
00:21:58,850 –> 00:22:00,986
The steam from the locomotive.
641
00:22:01,653 –> 00:22:04,289
Cooked him in place to the metal pieces.
642
00:22:05,157 –> 00:22:05,824
Yeah,
643
00:22:06,191 –> 00:22:06,391
pretty,
644
00:22:06,858 –> 00:22:07,592
pretty gruesome.
645
00:22:08,560 –> 00:22:08,860
Yeah,
646
00:22:08,994 –> 00:22:09,528
definitely.
647
00:22:09,761 –> 00:22:11,697
I thought you were gonna say the scene cooked the canaries,
648
00:22:11,797 –> 00:22:12,297
not the,
649
00:22:12,497 –> 00:22:13,532
not the engineer.
650
00:22:13,632 –> 00:22:13,965
Oh,
651
00:22:14,199 –> 00:22:14,266
no,
652
00:22:14,366 –> 00:22:15,434
not the canaries.
653
00:22:16,368 –> 00:22:16,868
That was
654
00:22:17,135 –> 00:22:19,571
quite a gruesome scene that they came across,
655
00:22:19,938 –> 00:22:20,205
uh,
656
00:22:20,372 –> 00:22:22,941
so that’s what happened unfortunately to Steve,
657
00:22:23,342 –> 00:22:25,143
the guy who wasn’t supposed to be
658
00:22:25,777 –> 00:22:26,611
on the train that day.
659
00:22:26,712 –> 00:22:28,246
So that’s really unfortunate
660
00:22:28,613 –> 00:22:31,516
and the dispatcher Sam that told him
661
00:22:31,817 –> 00:22:32,617
to speed up.
662
00:22:33,618 –> 00:22:34,219
Nothing
663
00:22:34,486 –> 00:22:34,953
got no,
664
00:22:35,120 –> 00:22:36,321
nothing happened to him,
665
00:22:36,421 –> 00:22:37,823
no accountability or anything.
666
00:22:37,956 –> 00:22:39,091
They just let him go.
667
00:22:39,524 –> 00:22:39,991
Really?
668
00:22:40,092 –> 00:22:40,726
I mean,
669
00:22:41,259 –> 00:22:41,626
oh,
670
00:22:41,693 –> 00:22:43,395
what a Friday the 13th story.
671
00:22:43,762 –> 00:22:44,162
Yeah.
672
00:22:44,463 –> 00:22:45,931
The good thing is though,
673
00:22:46,198 –> 00:22:46,998
Karma
674
00:22:47,299 –> 00:22:48,033
got
675
00:22:49,000 –> 00:22:49,301
Sam,
676
00:22:49,368 –> 00:22:50,936
the dispatcher who told him to do this.
677
00:22:51,036 –> 00:22:52,304
Karma got Sam.
678
00:22:52,971 –> 00:22:55,841
Rumor has it that dispatcher Sam
679
00:22:56,041 –> 00:22:56,908
was camping
680
00:22:57,142 –> 00:22:57,776
here in
681
00:22:58,076 –> 00:22:59,010
Southern Virginia.
682
00:22:59,444 –> 00:23:00,746
And he,
683
00:23:00,779 –> 00:23:02,180
he got eaten by canaries.
684
00:23:02,447 –> 00:23:03,949
He did not get eaten by canaries.
685
00:23:04,082 –> 00:23:05,484
I’m all over those canaries.
686
00:23:06,952 –> 00:23:07,319
Uh,
687
00:23:07,386 –> 00:23:10,455
but the story is he was camping in Southern Virginia
688
00:23:10,756 –> 00:23:12,591
and he wasn’t sure
689
00:23:12,958 –> 00:23:17,262
where the train tracks were and he ended up spending the night in his car,
690
00:23:17,262 –> 00:23:18,330
car camping,
691
00:23:18,597 –> 00:23:20,365
and he had parked on the train
692
00:23:20,665 –> 00:23:23,735
and a train hit his car and he ended up dying
693
00:23:24,236 –> 00:23:26,204
so that’s some karma for your.
694
00:23:28,073 –> 00:23:28,607
Oh
695
00:23:29,708 –> 00:23:31,143
This just keeps getting worse.
696
00:23:31,743 –> 00:23:32,310
Yeah,
697
00:23:32,511 –> 00:23:32,978
yeah,
698
00:23:33,145 –> 00:23:34,513
so nothing happened to Sam.
699
00:23:34,679 –> 00:23:37,883
The Southern Railroad did get charged,
700
00:23:38,583 –> 00:23:41,853
penalties for losing the mail despite all the death.
701
00:23:42,154 –> 00:23:43,355
It’s kind of sad
702
00:23:44,256 –> 00:23:45,791
because the penalties are what caused the accident.
703
00:23:47,359 –> 00:23:47,893
do you know how many,
704
00:23:47,993 –> 00:23:50,662
how much they got charged in the penalties for losing the mail?
705
00:23:51,163 –> 00:23:52,764
it was the same $200
706
00:23:52,931 –> 00:23:54,633
but I think when you just lose the mail,
707
00:23:54,699 –> 00:23:56,735
they just charged you the contract,
708
00:23:56,802 –> 00:23:57,669
the whole contract,
709
00:23:57,702 –> 00:23:58,103
yeah.
710
00:23:58,737 –> 00:23:59,304
So they,
711
00:23:59,371 –> 00:24:01,273
so they lost money on that too.
712
00:24:01,673 –> 00:24:02,174
Dang it.
713
00:24:03,942 –> 00:24:07,779
The train was actually rescued from the bottom of the gorge
714
00:24:08,146 –> 00:24:09,481
and they
715
00:24:10,115 –> 00:24:10,982
repaired it
716
00:24:11,316 –> 00:24:15,954
and the old 97 was back two years later running that same
717
00:24:16,321 –> 00:24:18,490
journey from Washington DC to Atlanta.
718
00:24:18,623 –> 00:24:19,825
Can you believe that?
719
00:24:20,225 –> 00:24:21,493
And my question is like,
720
00:24:21,693 –> 00:24:24,729
was the excavation of getting the train out
721
00:24:24,729 –> 00:24:27,432
of the gorge and repairing it really less than
722
00:24:28,066 –> 00:24:30,469
creating a new train that could potentially be
723
00:24:30,702 –> 00:24:31,369
haunted?
724
00:24:32,504 –> 00:24:32,704
Well,
725
00:24:32,838 –> 00:24:34,973
but I know like when my brother got,
726
00:24:35,006 –> 00:24:35,307
got hit,
727
00:24:35,340 –> 00:24:37,876
the locomotive sustained no damage.
728
00:24:38,443 –> 00:24:39,010
So I mean,
729
00:24:39,077 –> 00:24:40,879
even if it fell down a gorge,
730
00:24:41,012 –> 00:24:41,613
I mean,
731
00:24:41,913 –> 00:24:42,948
I guess it could have been damaged,
732
00:24:42,981 –> 00:24:44,816
but back then the cost of everything,
733
00:24:44,950 –> 00:24:46,218
maybe I don’t know.
734
00:24:46,885 –> 00:24:49,187
Could have been worth to keep it rescue it,
735
00:24:49,454 –> 00:24:54,025
and especially if they’re only making $1400 and already lost $200.
736
00:24:54,960 –> 00:24:56,962
They might need to save every piece they have.
737
00:24:57,496 –> 00:24:57,963
So yeah,
738
00:24:58,129 –> 00:25:02,133
that is the story of the old ’97 locomotive,
739
00:25:02,200 –> 00:25:03,101
pretty gruesome.
740
00:25:03,268 –> 00:25:03,568
Any,
741
00:25:03,668 –> 00:25:05,270
what are your reactions to that?
742
00:25:05,804 –> 00:25:06,204
That’s,
743
00:25:06,304 –> 00:25:06,872
I mean,
744
00:25:07,005 –> 00:25:08,173
the Canaries threw me,
745
00:25:08,340 –> 00:25:08,874
obviously.
746
00:25:09,107 –> 00:25:09,508
I’m
747
00:25:09,741 –> 00:25:12,677
fascinated by the canaries on the train now for some oddball.
748
00:25:12,811 –> 00:25:13,111
Reason,
749
00:25:13,545 –> 00:25:14,412
but just
750
00:25:14,613 –> 00:25:15,280
the,
751
00:25:15,580 –> 00:25:16,248
I mean
752
00:25:16,615 –> 00:25:17,048
how,
753
00:25:17,082 –> 00:25:21,486
how the engineer died and then the fact that Karma got the other engineer or the
754
00:25:21,486 –> 00:25:23,522
other dispatcher and you would have thought he
755
00:25:23,522 –> 00:25:26,725
would have known better having worked with trains and
756
00:25:26,992 –> 00:25:29,794
just 00 yeah,
757
00:25:29,861 –> 00:25:30,495
55
758
00:25:31,029 –> 00:25:33,431
MPH doesn’t sound that crazy
759
00:25:33,665 –> 00:25:34,799
to me for a train,
760
00:25:34,866 –> 00:25:35,367
but
761
00:25:35,700 –> 00:25:36,101
I don’t know,
762
00:25:36,268 –> 00:25:37,602
something happened that night.
763
00:25:37,936 –> 00:25:38,136
Yeah,
764
00:25:38,236 –> 00:25:42,240
but 55 miles an hour on a train with a train that you figure is what,
765
00:25:42,240 –> 00:25:43,141
5 to
766
00:25:43,341 –> 00:25:45,143
8 cars maybe
767
00:25:46,011 –> 00:25:47,646
and doing a sharp curve,
768
00:25:47,679 –> 00:25:50,949
I mean how many times do we see road signs that say slow down,
769
00:25:51,016 –> 00:25:52,450
sharp curve ahead 25
770
00:25:52,918 –> 00:25:55,720
MPH and that speed with that weight I’m,
771
00:25:55,921 –> 00:25:57,589
I mean I can see it happening.
772
00:25:58,256 –> 00:25:58,557
Yeah,
773
00:25:58,690 –> 00:26:01,893
and the reason the train ended up supposedly the
774
00:26:01,893 –> 00:26:04,296
reason it was jumping the tracks was Steve,
775
00:26:04,362 –> 00:26:06,998
the conductor was trying to slow the train down
776
00:26:07,432 –> 00:26:08,333
and the
777
00:26:08,466 –> 00:26:10,368
air brakes weren’t working.
778
00:26:10,936 –> 00:26:13,371
he was blowing his horn before the trestle and
779
00:26:13,371 –> 00:26:15,574
usually he blows the horn after the trestle.
780
00:26:15,874 –> 00:26:17,542
So one theory
781
00:26:17,842 –> 00:26:21,713
was that he was blowing the horn to notify them to pull the emergency brake,
782
00:26:22,013 –> 00:26:22,480
but.
783
00:26:22,881 –> 00:26:25,650
It never ended up getting pulled unfortunately,
784
00:26:25,850 –> 00:26:29,454
but Old 97 has a legacy in pop culture.
785
00:26:29,554 –> 00:26:30,922
You guys know Johnny Cash,
786
00:26:30,989 –> 00:26:31,623
right?
787
00:26:31,990 –> 00:26:32,190
He,
788
00:26:32,190 –> 00:26:34,859
he sings a song called Old 97.
789
00:26:35,427 –> 00:26:36,127
Originally,
790
00:26:36,194 –> 00:26:38,597
the song was written by Vernon Dollhart.
791
00:26:38,630 –> 00:26:39,664
Have you guys heard of him?
792
00:26:39,998 –> 00:26:40,298
Yeah,
793
00:26:40,432 –> 00:26:41,666
I hadn’t heard of him either.
794
00:26:41,866 –> 00:26:43,001
He’s from Danville,
795
00:26:43,034 –> 00:26:43,969
Virginia,
796
00:26:44,469 –> 00:26:45,003
fun,
797
00:26:45,270 –> 00:26:51,810
and the song Old 97 was actually the first song to be recorded 1 million times
798
00:26:51,943 –> 00:26:52,978
in America,
799
00:26:53,311 –> 00:26:53,812
yeah,
800
00:26:54,079 –> 00:26:56,948
and it all started with uh Vernon Dollhart,
801
00:26:57,182 –> 00:26:58,016
the man who wrote it,
802
00:26:58,116 –> 00:27:02,253
but then Johnny Cash recorded a version and a lot of Blue Ridge,
803
00:27:02,354 –> 00:27:02,821
Bluegrass,
804
00:27:02,854 –> 00:27:03,822
Appalachian people,
805
00:27:03,922 –> 00:27:04,422
you know,
806
00:27:04,656 –> 00:27:05,624
recorded different versions.
807
00:27:05,690 –> 00:27:06,658
So that was,
808
00:27:06,658 –> 00:27:08,593
I guess the first platinum record.
809
00:27:08,927 –> 00:27:10,962
And it happened because of a Daniel artist,
810
00:27:11,129 –> 00:27:13,498
so that’s pretty awesome for Virginia.
811
00:27:13,798 –> 00:27:14,499
Yeah,
812
00:27:15,066 –> 00:27:19,871
for people new here we always do a segment at the end of Elisha’s
813
00:27:19,871 –> 00:27:24,542
Eerie History where we rate it on a scale of 1 to 10 EEH’s.
814
00:27:24,909 –> 00:27:25,744
One of our episodes,
815
00:27:25,844 –> 00:27:27,612
which was the Blackbeard pisode,
816
00:27:27,912 –> 00:27:28,413
uh,
817
00:27:28,580 –> 00:27:29,180
we had
818
00:27:29,447 –> 00:27:31,149
only 2 to 3 E’s,
819
00:27:31,449 –> 00:27:33,551
but one of our episodes in Shenandoah National Park,
820
00:27:33,585 –> 00:27:35,553
have you guys ever heard of the Pocison Mission?
821
00:27:36,521 –> 00:27:37,022
So
822
00:27:38,023 –> 00:27:39,391
Shenandoah National Park,
823
00:27:39,491 –> 00:27:42,227
people used to live there before it was federal lands.
824
00:27:42,661 –> 00:27:43,328
And
825
00:27:43,461 –> 00:27:45,030
the people that lived there
826
00:27:45,430 –> 00:27:46,031
got
827
00:27:46,297 –> 00:27:48,033
displaced unfortunately,
828
00:27:48,333 –> 00:27:49,968
and the ruins
829
00:27:50,235 –> 00:27:51,770
of their homes are still there
830
00:27:52,037 –> 00:27:52,404
and
831
00:27:52,537 –> 00:27:56,041
our podcast went there and it was super scary that got 9 out of 10 EEH’s.
832
00:27:56,074 –> 00:27:57,542
That was a super scary one.
833
00:27:57,776 –> 00:27:59,044
I’m gonna ask you,
834
00:27:59,210 –> 00:28:01,246
1 being not very scary,
835
00:28:01,379 –> 00:28:03,648
10 being super scary,
836
00:28:04,082 –> 00:28:06,584
how many EEHs would you rate
837
00:28:06,985 –> 00:28:07,952
old 97?
838
00:28:10,255 –> 00:28:10,955
Oh,
839
00:28:11,122 –> 00:28:12,624
the way the engineer and,
840
00:28:12,624 –> 00:28:14,292
and then the dispatcher died,
841
00:28:14,325 –> 00:28:18,430
I would give it at least a 7 to an 8- 7 to 8 EEHs.
842
00:28:18,563 –> 00:28:18,997
Yeah,
843
00:28:19,664 –> 00:28:20,131
I mean,
844
00:28:20,265 –> 00:28:20,732
oh,
845
00:28:20,765 –> 00:28:21,266
just,
846
00:28:22,967 –> 00:28:23,401
yeah,
847
00:28:23,468 –> 00:28:23,668
yeah,
848
00:28:23,835 –> 00:28:25,904
I would say I would give it,
849
00:28:26,271 –> 00:28:27,872
I’d probably give it maybe
850
00:28:28,940 –> 00:28:30,408
this isn’t the most gruesome story.
851
00:28:30,475 –> 00:28:33,278
I would probably give it 6 E’s personally,
852
00:28:33,445 –> 00:28:34,012
but
853
00:28:34,345 –> 00:28:35,947
there’s been other gruesome stories
854
00:28:36,448 –> 00:28:37,415
that we’ve gone over.
855
00:28:38,083 –> 00:28:38,983
How about you guys?
856
00:28:39,217 –> 00:28:39,250
What,
857
00:28:39,417 –> 00:28:40,385
how many EEHs would you give it?
858
00:28:40,385 –> 00:28:41,419
3 over here?
859
00:28:41,753 –> 00:28:42,220
3?
860
00:28:42,253 –> 00:28:42,954
How about you?
861
00:28:44,956 –> 00:28:45,724
9
862
00:28:46,825 –> 00:28:48,159
5! 5 EEHS.
863
00:28:48,359 –> 00:28:48,560
OK,
864
00:28:48,593 –> 00:28:49,027
we got 3,
865
00:28:49,094 –> 00:28:49,594
we got 5.
866
00:28:49,661 –> 00:28:50,962
How about you guys over here?
867
00:28:51,563 –> 00:28:52,063
4?
868
00:28:52,197 –> 00:28:52,597
Not that,
869
00:28:52,731 –> 00:28:54,666
not that you’ve seen some stuff.
870
00:28:57,168 –> 00:28:57,635
You too,
871
00:28:57,769 –> 00:28:58,803
you said 3.
872
00:28:59,104 –> 00:28:59,571
Wow,
873
00:28:59,804 –> 00:29:00,438
wow.
874
00:29:00,905 –> 00:29:02,540
How about you guys in the back?
875
00:29:02,941 –> 00:29:03,608
5?
876
00:29:03,808 –> 00:29:04,008
Wow,
877
00:29:04,109 –> 00:29:04,275
you,
878
00:29:04,409 –> 00:29:06,111
you guys are tough out here.
879
00:29:06,344 –> 00:29:07,812
I must just get creeped out easily.
880
00:29:08,079 –> 00:29:08,480
Yeah,
881
00:29:08,613 –> 00:29:09,114
yeah.
882
00:29:09,380 –> 00:29:09,447
Well,
883
00:29:09,547 –> 00:29:10,148
I’m,
884
00:29:10,315 –> 00:29:10,482
yeah,
885
00:29:10,648 –> 00:29:11,049
I,
886
00:29:11,249 –> 00:29:12,584
I thought it was pretty scary.
887
00:29:12,650 –> 00:29:12,817
I,
888
00:29:12,984 –> 00:29:13,551
you guys are tough.
889
00:29:13,651 –> 00:29:15,687
I’ll have to do a better story next time.
890
00:29:16,087 –> 00:29:16,588
6.
891
00:29:16,688 –> 00:29:16,955
OK,
892
00:29:17,088 –> 00:29:17,722
I’m with you.
893
00:29:17,822 –> 00:29:18,423
Thank you,
894
00:29:18,590 –> 00:29:19,324
thank you.
895
00:29:19,491 –> 00:29:19,791
All right,
896
00:29:19,924 –> 00:29:21,059
someone here isn’t
897
00:29:21,493 –> 00:29:22,260
traumatized.
898
00:29:22,393 –> 00:29:23,394
Oh my gosh.
899
00:29:25,263 –> 00:29:25,964
All right,
900
00:29:26,464 –> 00:29:29,267
so thank you for joining us today.
901
00:29:29,534 –> 00:29:33,438
I’m gonna take a couple questions from you guys about the
902
00:29:33,872 –> 00:29:35,740
old ’97 about the podcast.
903
00:29:35,840 –> 00:29:38,376
Let me know if you have any questions and um
904
00:29:38,743 –> 00:29:39,344
thank you
905
00:29:39,577 –> 00:29:41,412
so much for joining us today.
906
00:29:41,579 –> 00:29:44,816
I hope you guys enjoy the paranormal investigations.
907
00:29:44,916 –> 00:29:46,451
I’m gonna win the costume contest,
908
00:29:46,451 –> 00:29:47,752
so don’t even bother,
909
00:29:47,786 –> 00:29:48,153
but.
910
00:29:48,586 –> 00:29:48,853
Uh,
911
00:29:48,920 –> 00:29:50,655
you guys enjoy the rest of your night.
912
00:29:50,889 –> 00:29:52,557
Thank you so much for coming out and it’s
913
00:29:52,557 –> 00:29:55,160
been a huge pleasure having you all here today.
914
00:29:55,326 –> 00:29:55,927
Thank you.
915
00:30:03,535 –> 00:30:05,804
So Any questions?
916
00:30:06,070 –> 00:30:07,739
Yeah. What’s up?
917
00:30:07,739 –> 00:30:13,344
So I want to know, so you said
it came to run afterwards, was it haunted?
918
00:30:14,612 –> 00:30:16,214
The train?
919
00:30:16,214 –> 00:30:19,083
So the research I saw wasn’t saying
920
00:30:19,083 –> 00:30:20,518
It was haunted.
921
00:30:20,518 –> 00:30:24,455
More so that that gorge area in Danville
was haunted.
922
00:30:24,455 –> 00:30:27,926
And supposedly,
if you go down there today, you can.
923
00:30:27,926 –> 00:30:30,562
See shrapnel and pieces of the train.
924
00:30:30,562 –> 00:30:31,963
Still.
925
00:30:31,963 –> 00:30:33,431
Yeah, that is creepy.
926
00:30:33,431 –> 00:30:37,569
Yeah, but I think they don’t think
the train is haunted.
927
00:30:37,569 –> 00:30:40,538
But that would be a really cool
story, too.
928
00:30:41,105 –> 00:30:42,874
Yeah.
929
00:30:42,874 –> 00:30:45,877
Any other questions?
930
00:30:45,877 –> 00:30:47,011
Oh, one over here.
931
00:30:47,011 –> 00:30:49,080
How come? I’ll come back to come back?
932
00:30:49,080 –> 00:30:51,149
Not about the train. But have you ever heard of the
933
00:30:51,149 –> 00:30:56,955
down B52 bomber, it’s by Sharptop
934
00:30:59,057 –> 00:31:01,893
Like an episode on that?
935
00:31:01,893 –> 00:31:02,360
Okay.
936
00:31:02,360 –> 00:31:04,429
Yeah, yeah, I have okay.
937
00:31:04,429 –> 00:31:06,798
I have heard of that. Tell me more
938
00:31:06,798 –> 00:31:08,266
So you said, for the people on the livestream?
939
00:31:08,266 –> 00:31:11,536
It’s the bomber. What is it called now?
940
00:31:12,904 –> 00:31:15,607
B-52 bomber.
941
00:31:15,607 –> 00:31:17,342
Okay, by Sharptop.
942
00:31:17,342 –> 00:31:19,143
So that’s in Bedford.
943
00:31:19,143 –> 00:31:21,846
Okay, okay, I have heard of it.
944
00:31:21,846 –> 00:31:23,748
Have you hiked to it? Have you been?
945
00:31:23,748 –> 00:31:24,549
Because can you get.
946
00:31:24,549 –> 00:31:26,451
I heard you can get there.
947
00:31:26,451 –> 00:31:27,886
Okay, I’ll have to check it out.
948
00:31:27,886 –> 00:31:30,355
I would love to go. I have heard of it.
949
00:31:30,355 –> 00:31:31,556
I haven’t been, though.
950
00:31:31,556 –> 00:31:35,159
I haven’t been, but that is a great idea
for another episode.
951
00:31:35,159 –> 00:31:35,627
Maybe.
952
00:31:35,627 –> 00:31:38,529
Maybe even come along with us
when we explore that one.
953
00:31:38,529 –> 00:31:39,864
Yes, sir.
954
00:31:39,864 –> 00:31:42,867
Was there any more train crashed before or after
955
00:31:43,701 –> 00:31:45,937
in that same spot.
956
00:31:45,937 –> 00:31:47,105
In that same spot-
957
00:31:47,105 –> 00:31:49,574
I didn’t see anything about that
same spot.
958
00:31:49,574 –> 00:31:52,877
Now, the that area going from Lynchburg to
959
00:31:52,877 –> 00:31:56,014
Danville
has had quite a number of accidents.
960
00:31:56,180 –> 00:32:00,451
You were talking about one
where a passenger car got left was that
961
00:32:00,718 –> 00:32:02,854
that was after Lynchburg. Right.
962
00:32:02,854 –> 00:32:05,556
That was actually, headed into Lynchburg.
963
00:32:05,556 –> 00:32:07,625
So that was on the other side
of Lynchburg.
964
00:32:07,625 –> 00:32:09,227
They were coming from,
I think, Charlottesville.
965
00:32:09,227 –> 00:32:13,264
And it happened between Charlottesville,
like ten miles outside of Lynchburg.
966
00:32:14,265 –> 00:32:15,833
But to kind of
967
00:32:15,833 –> 00:32:18,836
go ahead, I mean, how many,
968
00:32:19,837 –> 00:32:22,840
Do you know, how many did around that area?
969
00:32:25,343 –> 00:32:26,678
I don’t know how many were on there.
970
00:32:26,678 –> 00:32:28,446
I’ll I’ll have to look it up
and get back to you
971
00:32:28,446 –> 00:32:30,648
when we’re investigating
the paranormal later.
972
00:32:30,648 –> 00:32:32,550
I do know that train crashes
973
00:32:32,550 –> 00:32:36,387
increased tremendously during this area
because of the fine.
974
00:32:36,387 –> 00:32:38,723
And so many trains are rushing around.
975
00:32:38,723 –> 00:32:41,893
That, like,
if the statistic was like train crashes
976
00:32:41,893 –> 00:32:46,698
that increased like 200% or something,
That yeat that they started these fines.
977
00:32:46,698 –> 00:32:49,267
So it was one of the most dangerous times
to be on a train in.
978
00:32:49,267 –> 00:32:52,203
American history was. The early 1900s.
979
00:32:52,203 –> 00:32:53,304
Yeah, a good question.
980
00:32:53,304 –> 00:32:56,307
I don’t know.
981
00:32:56,941 –> 00:33:01,212
Yes, where is the Old 97 now?
The Ol’ 97 now-
982
00:33:01,212 –> 00:33:06,317
So it got, it got retired
and I believe it is.
983
00:33:06,317 –> 00:33:11,289
in, I believe it just got used for scrap
metal at the time
984
00:33:11,289 –> 00:33:14,292
because it got retired, actually, in 19,
985
00:33:15,026 –> 00:33:17,662
it was two years after the crash.
986
00:33:17,662 –> 00:33:18,262
It got restored.
987
00:33:18,262 –> 00:33:18,930
So 1905.
988
00:33:18,930 –> 00:33:22,233
And the two years after that, in 1907,
it got retired.
989
00:33:22,467 –> 00:33:25,470
So it’s still pretty early. And, you know.
990
00:33:25,536 –> 00:33:26,738
Transportation history.
991
00:33:26,738 –> 00:33:32,643
And, I believe it got used for scrap
metal because they were losing money.
992
00:33:32,643 –> 00:33:36,381
And they needed, you know,
to make some cash, so government
993
00:33:36,381 –> 00:33:41,052
contracts, not the way to go unless, you
know, it’s in cybersecurity or something.
994
00:33:42,620 –> 00:33:43,788
So good question,
995
00:33:43,788 –> 00:33:45,757
though, good question.
996
00:33:45,757 –> 00:33:47,959
Anyone else?
997
00:33:47,959 –> 00:33:50,895
No. Well, thank you again for coming out.
998
00:33:50,895 –> 00:33:52,797
We have some doodads at the front.
999
00:33:52,797 –> 00:33:57,335
We have, some
we have some Elisha Eerie History stickers.
1000
00:33:57,335 –> 00:33:59,971
There’s some ghost, keychains.
1001
00:33:59,971 –> 00:34:01,239
I hope you guys get glow sticks.
1002
00:34:01,239 –> 00:34:03,608
I’m going to be glow
sticked up while we’re ghost hunting.
1003
00:34:03,608 –> 00:34:05,043
So get some glow sticks.
1004
00:34:05,043 –> 00:34:07,912
Yeah, yeah, I see awesome, yeah.
1005
00:34:07,912 –> 00:34:09,847
So thank you so much for coming.
1006
00:34:09,847 –> 00:34:12,884
Oh, you got one too, awesome, swagged out.
1007
00:34:13,718 –> 00:34:16,387
Uncomprehendable speech
1008
00:34:16,387 –> 00:34:19,323
what was it?
1009
00:34:19,323 –> 00:34:20,291
You’re going to do the ghost hunting.
1010
00:34:20,291 –> 00:34:23,027
Okay, cool. I’ll see you there
then. I’ll see you there.
1011
00:34:23,027 –> 00:34:24,896
Hopefully, we see something.
1012
00:34:24,896 –> 00:34:26,431
All right, well, thank you so much.
1013
00:34:26,431 –> 00:34:28,032
You guys. Have a wonderful evening.
1014
00:34:32,503 –> 00:34:33,071
And we’re going to
1015
00:34:33,071 –> 00:34:36,274
play the Ol’ 97 song as you guys exit.
1016
00:34:36,307 –> 00:34:36,674
Okay?