Join hosts Arlo and Elisha as they delve into the depths of one of the worst geographic events in Virginia’s history.
Sources
Nelson County Sheriff William Whitehead Honored for Actions During 1969 Floods. 1971.
Bodies Recovered After the Intensive Flooding In Nelson County. 1969.
Organizations and Individuals Donate Cars, Tires, Gasoline, and Labor to Nelson County Residents Who Lost Their Transportation In Recent Floods. 1969.
Emery Fitzgerald of Nelson County and His Horse Receive a Commendation From the Red Cross for Saving His Mother-in-law From the Flooding of the Tye River. 1969.
https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/hurricane-camille-august-1969/
Farmville Herald, Volume 80, Number 70, 27 May 1970
https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/hurricane-camille-august-1969/
Southwest Times, Volume 66, Number 155, 27 August 1969
https://nelsonhistorical.org/cpage.php?pt=21
YouTube: Living in Virginia: Remembering Hurricane Camille
Lebanon News, Volume 89, Number 4556, 3 September 1969
Southwest Times, Volume 66, Number 156, 28 August 1969
Southwest Times, Volume 66, Number 152, 24 August 1969
Yellow Jacket, Volume 84, Number 6, 13 November 1998
Hurricane Camille Transcripts
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Hello, listeners and welcome to Elisha’s Eerie History!
[Song “Elisha’s Eerie History” by Sydney followed by drum break.]
Hello listeners,
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I am Elisha.
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And today I have special guest
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and star Arlo.
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Arlo is a friend of mine.
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A friend of the pod.
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Arlo is from the region of Virginia
that today’s episode is about.
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So hopefully they can bring us
their personal takes on
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all the tea happening.
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Without further ado.
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Arlo, thank you.
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Do you want to.
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Let them know anything about you?
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Do you have anything.
You want them to know?
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Well, Elisha and
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I have been friends
for a good amount of years.
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Couple years now?
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Yeah.
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Elisha has visited my hometown,
which we’ll talk about. Yes.
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Well, we’ll get into the.
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Hillbilly of it all.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that’s about all perfect.
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Perfect. Yeah.
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I’m excited.
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We are going
to get to the hillbilly of it all.
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Without further ado,
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I’m going to get into today’s topic, which
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is Hurricane Camille.
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So Hurricane
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Camille is a Category five hurricane
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that on July 15th, 1969,
came up the Gulf of Mexico
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into Mississippi and Louisiana
and then traveled
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north into Virginia.
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It was one of the three category five
hurricanes ever to hit the United States.
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The hurricane experienced
winds of over 200 miles per hour.
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And it dropped 27 inches of rain
in Virginia, killing a total of 153
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people, causing $116 million in damages.
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Yeah.
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I don’t I don’t know
if you’re going to mention this.
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I don’t know if it’s even publicized
or written anywhere,
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but I had a teacher in Nelson
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County tell us that there is a theory
that I
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I don’t know if you know Creedence
Clearwater Revival, that Moon Rising.
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Okay. Now came out in the same year.
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Okay.
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There is a theory.
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It was about the same like
it was about Camille.
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Is it a movie?
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It’s a song.
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It’s a hippie song. Cute.
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It probably. Is. It’s a very sorry.
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It’s a famous hippie song.
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I actually think I saw this song
in my research.
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Maybe. Okay.
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Maybe not, though.
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Well, we can listen to it later.
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My bad.
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you might be asking me, Elisha,
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why are we
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talking about a hurricane in Virginia?
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Oh my God. I’m so glad you asked.
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So, as Arlo knows.
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Camille, when I went up into Virginia
and I actually sat over Central Virginia,
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the location which we haven’t said yet,
I don’t believe is Nelson County.
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Yay, Arlo is like ugh. Arlo and I are
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Actually from a similar part of Virginia.
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We’re from like Central
Southwest Virginia.
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right up 29,
which didn’t exist at the time.
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Yeah.
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to talk a little.
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Bit about the geography there
and why Camille stayed
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there as it is east of the Blue Ridge
Mountains, I believe.
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No West.
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No East. Well, kind of about.
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My knowledge of Virginia.
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Geography is shameful.
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I forget. I know of all the towns.
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I know of all the locations,
but my brain rearranges in Fairfax.
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I know. Now it’s in Nova.
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However, I forget.
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Yeah, there is like a Halifax and.
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Southern Virginia too.
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So they sound similar, regardless,
to say
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the Blue Ridge Mountains
cut in between Nelson County. Yes.
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And because of that it takes storms
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a while to move out of the area.
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And because of that, this hurricane
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grew to be as big as it was.
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But before we get in there,
we always like to do a little review.
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We talk about the reviews of the location.
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yes. Now I chose to do the Nelson County
Historical Society. Oh lovely?
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Yeah, I’ve been there.
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Have you been there? Yeah, It was cool.
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It was a. Fabulous.
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Yeah, it was pretty nice.
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I don’t remember.
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I mean, it’s high school
– a while ago –
I wasn’t a person yet.
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Right. But the tour guide was lovely.
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And the same person
who talked about the CCR song.
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I’m like.
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Kind of like talking with a tour guide.
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But yeah, they gave us some pretty.
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Like,
they have a pretty in-depth exhibit.
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On Hurricane Camille there, Right?
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I remember correctly. Which.
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Who knows?
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Yeah.
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Well, once we see the reviews.
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Maybe there’ll still give more light,
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but I think it might have gotten smaller
or changed since then.
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but yes, they are.
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They go to resource on Hurricane
Camille. Yes.
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let’s get into the reviews.
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so they have a 4.6 out of five stars.
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Good job.
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Nelson
County Historical Society. Promising!
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I have three reviews here.
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The first one is from four years ago
by Tim Webber.
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Do you know Tim Weber your fellow Nelson County-er.
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You think we all know each other?
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No, I’m just hoping you know some.
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What you’re going to know people later
that we talk about what you said.
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You heard the name.
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Okay, Well, okay, we
we do recognize each other by last name.
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And like, the typical thing is like,
if you if you’re talking
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about a classmate when you’re young
and when you’re young in Nelson,
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it’s the question your parents will ask
is like, well, who’s their daddy?
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and that’s how they ask. Like the family.
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They’re part of the,
you know, the big family.
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Yeah.
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It’s like it’s like, it’s like, you know.
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Were you going to say Shifflett?. Yeah.
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So on episode two, the Pocosin Mission
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I, I cut out every reference to Shifflett
because they
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weren’t involved in the mission.
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But if I censored myself, Yeah.
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If you’re from Central Virginia
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you know that like Shiffletts
are like a huge family.
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The Shiffletts and my family go way back. Really?
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Yeah.
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We’re we’re all good friends.
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That’s another episode, guys. Okay.
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But yeah, like
you always ask the last name
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and then which one’s saying,
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okay, Yeah, yeah, oh.
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We’ll see if I know any. Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, Tim Weber from four years ago says
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wonderfully informative exhibits
and incredibly friendly staff.
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There is an awful lot
packed into a relatively small space here.
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The stories and photos
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documenting the Hurricane Camille disaster
tell the human side of the tragedy.
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Have a look and a listen. Dot, dot, dot.
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You won’t be disappointed.
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Second review.
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Is by Jay Beard is from a year ago.
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He said I wanted more information
on Hurricane Camille.
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And this is the go to place in quotation
marks for the history
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of that devastating storm.
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So this is from a year ago,
which makes me feel like.
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Maybe they should fund. The exhibit
change.
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Is it not funded?
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I don’t know.
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Well, it.
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Was an uneducated thing that I said.
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I. I listen to a podcast
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where someone interviewed
some survivors of Hurricane Camille,
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and it was last year and they did it
at the Nelson County Historical Society.
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Yeah.
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Anyways, next review by Pat Harris.
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This is also from four years ago.
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They said the society works very hard
to provide the very best
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and historical information and artifacts
and a format that everyone can enjoy.
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Nelson County Historical Society fights
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tirelessly
to preserve our Nelson County heritage.
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Well done.
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And I want to say that
this is like the mood for who
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Nelson County is as a culture.
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This kind of spoke at all to be like,
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I feel like you guys really support
each other for the most part,
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maybe not, but from what I’ve experienced
from Nelson County people,
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it’s like they’re like rural people
that have more sense of like.
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You know, struggle.
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Together versus like other places
like where I’m from in Lynchburg.
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That’s not the how.
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Have you been to any of our communities
centers?
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I haven’t.
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I’ve been to the.
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farmer’s market with you one. Yes.
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And I just remember
I don’t know, I remember
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how chill it was compared
to the Charlottesville market.
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It’s my favorite one for that reason. Yeah.
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and also,
there’s a lot of communes out there.
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Yeah.
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Which gives it like a super
like flower child vibe.
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And you have to own land on the communes.
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you do. Yeah.
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I mean you can have like, you know
if you want to be there you can have
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someone like, you know, vouch for you,
you know, if you want to live there.
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I mean it’s,
it’s still ownership of the land, right?
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So that’s, I mean that’s common
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to communist general but Yeah, but yeah,
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it is something that like
there is in Albemarle County as well.
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It’s and there I suppose
probably is in other parts of south.
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Or South Central.
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South West Virginia. West.
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Yeah.
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I don’t know, I don’t remember
any communes being in Lynchburg.
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I might be ignorant.
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I know there are around here
but I don’t know about Lynchburg.
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Well, I just feel like Lynchburg.
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Mega-churches. Yes, I was going to say.
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We were more of
like a religious community.
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So the vibe, because Nelson
isn’t like a religious community to me.
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Yeah, not entirely.
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There are certainly religious groups.
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Certainly there is.
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I would even say that the majority
are religious like or are Christian.
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But yeah, they’re just like different
divisions of that.
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Yeah.
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And like,
you know, you have your non-denominational
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and Catholic and like different groups
instead of like, of the.
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evangelical.
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More of the evangelical.
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I know there are fewer kind.
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Of like evangelical churches.
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Totally, totally
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you have to kind of go out of the county
for that kind of thing.
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Yeah. Yeah. It’s more like. Rural church.
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Or did at least. When I saw growing up.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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Arlo doesn’t live there anymore.
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So please don’t take what they say
as the Nelson County truth.
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It’s not the Gospel Church.
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But they’re talking
from previous experience.
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Yes. Okay.
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I am one person.
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So I have so many resources from this.
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I’m just going to post all the sources
this time instead of saying them all
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because, well, literally be here
for half an hour and I’m not stealing
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Nobody’s thunder.
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So y’all
look up, y’all read the description,
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I write them for you, none,
y’all read them. Yeah you don’t
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even hide them in like, a document.
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You put it right there. Yeah, Cause
I don’t want to get sued.
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I don’t know the rules. That’s great.
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Yeah, well, better like,
you’re not hiding anything.
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That’s perfect.
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Yeah, I’m not trying to hide anything,
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and I’m trying to be investigative,
so that’s why I just.
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I put, like, the brief little blurb,
and then I just put all the sources.
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I’ll even put, like, the graphic art.
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I stole on the internet, like, not stole, but
like, you know, common use or whatever.
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Derived, derived.
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Okay.
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So let’s began.
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let’s kind of break down.
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Let’s get science
first back and let’s break down
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what makes a hurricane really, really bad.
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Kind of bad. Not so bad.
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and we are now on August 19th
and August 20th,
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when the hurricane sits over
Nelson County.
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The Hurricane Camille is stretch
from Fredericksburg,
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Virginia, all the way to West Virginia.
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And overnight in about 6 hours,
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Nelson County received
27 inches of rainfall.
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There are three main factors that go.
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Into a hurricane.
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The first is our wind and rain ratios.
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So are we having 200 mile gusts?
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Are we having 50 mile per hour gusts?
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Is it raining 50% of the maximum amount?
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Is it raining 80% of the maximum amount.
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So yeah, those are the
that’s the first thing
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that kind of determines
the quality of a hurricane.
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Second is the hurricane fast moving?
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Is it slow moving and then third is storm
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surges, flash flooding, storm surges,
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flash flooding make up for nine
out of ten deaths in a hurricane.
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Typically
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in our case, in Nelson County,
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rain was at a 100%.
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The National Weather Service at the time
reported that it was the probable
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maximum rainfall, which meteorologists
compute to be theoretically possible.
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That came down on Nelson County that day.
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Yeah, I
this is something I remember hearing about
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when I was really
young is the humidity and the rainfall.
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Yeah.
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And I.
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Again, I don’t know if you have something
about this in your sources,
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but I was told by my mom that the humidity
and rainfall was so great
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that people reported that livestock
were drowning from breathing the. Air.
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Really? Yeah.
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And that’s. Anecdotal.
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Yeah, of course.
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Secondary or tertiary source.
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Yeah. That’s what was said.
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a lot of it we’re going to go into today
is also about how lake farmers suffered
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from. All of this.
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also why this hurricane was so horrible.
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And Nelson County is a series of waterways
that connect to the James River.
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And because of this when
there was flooding, you couldn’t escape.
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We were inland and so it rapidly
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increased we’ll get into that experience.
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But that was the main cause
of all the suffering people
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went to bed that night, not realizing
how intense the storm was going to be.
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And then people in Lynchburg
and in Charlottesville on either
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side of Nelson County had woke up having
no idea everything that had just occurred.
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So let’s get and to an example
of what happened that night
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and that’ll open us up to understanding the experience
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more to then talk about what happened
and adding personal anecdotes.
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So we’re going to go over the story
of Warren Raines.
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Have you heard this story?
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Yeah. Okay.
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Um we read it when I was in high school.
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Okay. Okay.
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Yeah.
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He’s like the really popular person
to give his take
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because he’s one of the few residents
that will speak about it.
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A lot of the survivors
don’t want to speak about it
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because it was so traumatizing.
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Warren Raines was 14
when Hurricane Camille happened
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and his family, had two sisters,
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two brothers, so five children in total,
and then a mom and a dad.
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And they lived in an area of Nelson
County called the Davis Creek
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Maxie Mill, Massey’s Mill area.
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Massey’s mill is where they lived.
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And they went to bed that night
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thinking this is a normal storm.
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Nothing serious is going to happen.
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It’s like. It’s like white noise. Yeah.
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And if you live in this area,
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you know, we have storms all the time
and it’s never a big deal.
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So they go to bed, everything’s fine.
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And then around 2 a.m.,
they get a call from their neighbor
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who lives farther down.
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Massie’s Mill closer to the water.
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And they say, my gosh,
our entire neighborhood is flooding.
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Our car is floating away.
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Can we please send our children with you
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like you guys need to get out of here
if you can.
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Your car is not under water.
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Warren and his family
and this family get into a station
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wagon, 11 people in total
they try to rent the car.
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gives two different accounts.
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One account I read, he says they went like
20 yards and the car stopped.
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And another account, he says the car
and started all due to water damage.
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Either way, it did not get far.
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the families get out of the car.
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And at this point
the water has surged up to
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about eight feet, is what he says.
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And it’s just pouring buckets
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everyone starts going separate ways,
trying to run uphill.
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I was trying to figure out how to escape.
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And eventually he and all of his family,
unfortunately, get separated.
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So at this point,
Warren says the water keeps rising
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and he finds himself
holding on to a willow tree to stay safe.
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He holds on to the willow tree
and stays there.
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The rest of the night.
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So he’s there until the morning.
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Meanwhile, he’s avoiding like carnage
that is floating around him.
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At one point.
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This is a direct quote.
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He says, Whole homes were floating by
and you were making sure you weren’t
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going to run into it.
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The next morning,
the water receded quickly and he says like
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the water basically,
like more or less went to a normal state.
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It receded like eight or nine feet.
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Just from erosion.
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At that point.
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Yeah. Everything’s eroded.
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Yeah. It going off for the eroded thing.
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It was later reported that of our main
sources
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says that it was like a thousand years
of erosion.
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Happened in like 6 hours and so what happened.
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Was it rained so hard in 6 hours
that the ground
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instead of turning like being soil
turned into like wet cement
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and we’ll get into it later,
there was a huge landslide.
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It ended up killing. An entire family.
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Warren,
after everything recedes, he’s in shock.
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Clearly, he’s 14 years old.
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He wanders around and finds his brother.
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At first he’s so in shock,
he doesn’t realize it’s his brother.
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And then when he realizes brother,
they get together, they come around,
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they find a few more people.
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There’s no electricity, there’s no cops,
firefighters, there’s no resources at all.
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Because this is like rural Virginia.
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two gentlemen, young men
and the people that survived wait it out.
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They look for other survivors.
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Unfortunately,
Warren’s family did not survive.
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He said that at the time
people comforted him by telling him
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they had been flown to Lynchburg
General Hospital when that was not,
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in fact, the truth.
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he said that when I went to bed
that night, knowing that
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I hadn’t seen or heard anything
from anybody, that it was bad news.
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And he said, there’s a reason why.
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For me, the biggest thing is nature
can really do some bad things.
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August 28th will be a day of branded
in our minds until we die.
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Something really upsetting about Warren’s
story,
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too, is his house
actually survived for the most part.
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The second and third floor of his house
are completely unscathed,
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and his and his family had decided
not to leave and stay in the home.
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They likely would have survived.
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So, yeah, that is Warren’s story.
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I know we’re trying to be a comedy
podcast, but this one is a little dark.
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A couple of the episodes
have a kind of dark.
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You’ve heard this before.
What is your reaction?
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Yeah, I mean, there are parts of that
I’ve heard before, but yeah they,
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they still hit,
yeah, I mean, especially,
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I mean, yeah, losing an entire family.
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Obviously the fact that the house was
all right for the most part, I remember.
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The details of that story, like
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kind of describing the parts of the house
that were still there.
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Yeah.
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When yeah, when we had kind of
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talked about it
when I was younger in school
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and the other thing that I think about is
like is
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Massie’s Mill is a place that
I’m relatively familiar
with like it’s
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the place kind of that you go through in Nelson
kind of between I guess
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more Eastern Nelson and Amherst area.
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I’m terr- again please don’t listen to me
I’m terrible at geography Yeah it’s.
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It’s like
it’s like kind of near central Nelson.
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Yeah into like the next county over.
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Yeah, like closer to Amherst.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But yeah, that’s, that’s an area
that’s still very rural.
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That’s still like,
at least in the 20 tens.
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The last time I was really there, a lot,
it was still very
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you know, a lot of places
Nelson County are still
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your neighbors are very far away from
you it’s not like in a suburban
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or urban environment
where you can see their house.
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Yeah, look out the window.
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and that was a big thing of why
this devastated communities
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was this community farther west is like,
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shit, we’re getting our asses handed to us
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and like infrastructure in Nelson
isn’t the strongest.
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So by the time they were like,
we have to warn,
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you know, the next town over,
it was like, too late.
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It was all back road. Yeah, time too.
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There were no like, we.
Yeah. Highway. Yeah.
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Even today when I drive
from Charlottesville to Lynchburg
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to see my family, which Nelson
is the main part of the drive,
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I’m not unlike a beautiful straight
highway.
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I’m like, literally winding through Virginia.
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Yeah, yeah. And it’s gorgeous.
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Yeah, it is.
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But I remember
times we’ve gone through there.
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I’ve taken you on some back roads. Yeah.
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I remember times we’ve gone through there
and I have literally
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felt like we are in
like the West Virginia mountains and
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not to like compare our experiences
to third world countries experiences,
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but there are parts of America
that have infrastructure
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comparable to less developed nations.
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Yeah, I mean. It’s isolated, right?
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Yeah. There. There’s a great disparity.
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and throwback to episode two of the Pocosin Mission,
we go into how isolation
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shaped this impoverished community.
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And it’s kind of crazy
because the Pocosin Mission
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we experience people drowning in like
there was a huge flood there and they live
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deep in the mountains
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and it’s like so similar to
what happened here just on a huge scale.
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Yeah, I mean.
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Even again, like even in recent
times, there are people
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who live in places that are just like,
heated by only a woodstove.
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There are people like,
can’t make it to school
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in the snow because there is no like
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there are no state roads, there is nothing
that is plowed, there is no accessible route
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like there are like people
still living in those mountains.
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Right.
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It’s it’s just modern.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And the story,
part of the biggest struggle I had with
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this story was hearing how
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the aftermath of the disaster
was taken care of.
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So there was a lot of heroine beautiful moments,
00;23;54;07 – 00;23;57;06
but there were also moments
that really painted
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the picture of how horrible
the situation was.
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So first I’m going to discuss
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I’m going to discuss how many people died
in the three major locations.
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And then we’re going to talk about
how we uncovered this number.
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So Massie’s Mill
where Warren and his family was.
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23 people died in Hoffman Hollow,
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which is an area
predominantly of the Hoffman family.
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But there were other families there, too.
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About 50 people died.
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And then in Davis Creek, an unknown
number of people died.
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The numbers vary based on the sources,
but in total,
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people say about 130 to 150 people died.
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It’s hard to say
exactly how many people died
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because there could have been people
driving through the area
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that didn’t live
there, that there were some bodies
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that were never identified
that were near the road.
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So with all of that being said, after
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the hurricane, bridges were blown out,
roads were blown out.
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There was no way to enter
and to Nelson County from Lynchburg
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or Charlottesville,
other than tiny back road arteries.
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And because of that, rescue operations
00;25;11;12 – 00;25;15;23
were really difficult
in typical natural disaster operations.
00;25;15;23 – 00;25;18;14
You are allocated 30 days
to recover people,
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and after that, it’s considered
like, no, go ahead.
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Keep in mind, Mississippi also
just got hit with this disaster storm.
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So the National Guard is down there.
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A lot of things are happening down there.
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And then all of a sudden
this happened in rural Virginia,
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unexpectedly in inland Virginia,
not even the coast.
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And the people in Nelson can’t
even inform other people what’s going on.
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And so what ends up happening is a group
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of Nelson County officials,
including the sheriff
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and some other people
that survived, grouped with
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outside resources,
such as volunteers from the Lynchburg
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police station, people
in the National Guard,
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all sorts of different organizations,
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the Mennonites, the Red Cross
all came together and was led by this,
00;26;08;07 – 00;26;11;22
the locals,
and started a recovery process.
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In this recovery
process, people were not recovered
00;26;17;18 – 00;26;20;26
until seven or eight days after the storm
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in some circumstances.
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Particularly at Hoffman Hollow, where over
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50 people died,
they were not recovered and.
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August 28th,
which is eight days after the incident.
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And the reason for
this was other than like
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having lack of resources going in
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and the locals of Nelson County
were the only people
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who had the knowledge to identify
where communities were.
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So later in the recovery
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process, two days
and we have people from the military
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and the Navy and Marines
come in from Quantico and they fly.
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Helicopters around, which is awesome.
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It’s like one of those moments
where you’re like,
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We’re a military society,
but like at least it was used for good.
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Kind of in this instance.
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all these.
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Helicopters are coming in rescuing people.
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But they had Nelson County residents
in the helicopters
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directing them to where these communities,
because they were so small
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and hidden in the mountains,
it was like critical.
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I want to. Read this article.
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It’s from the, Lebanon News,
and it’s called In Disaster Area.
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says Rescuers were donned gas masks today
to repulse the stench of death
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hanging over Virginia’s disaster
stricken mountains.
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It was exactly one week ago today
that dying hurricane Camille poured
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than ten inches of rain
on western and central Virginia,
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touching off landslides and floods
that swept away entire mountain villages.
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The toll from Virginia’s worst disaster
ever stood.
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Today at 83, known dead, one of 104
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people missing
and more than 100 million in damages.
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So people who worked it (the rescue)
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some of them were Vietnam veterans
and compared it to the carnage of Vietnam.
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it was apparently very traumatizing
for people because they would
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come up to an area
where there were no survivors
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and there were like 50 or so dead
bodies are more.
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And this particular family,
the Hoffman family, there was only one
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survivor of the Hoffman family,
and it was because he was actually working
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at the time of the hurricane
and he survived.
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His whole entire family did not.
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So that’s one instance
where it’s like really cruel to hear that,
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like people’s bodies were so decomposed.
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Yeah, it’s the middle of August too,
– right –
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Yeah. Right.
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And yeah, just This is of course
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just a unfortunate.
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I guess not.
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Efficient rescue.
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Operation and not the most efficient.
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Efficient.
But that’s because of the circumstances.
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I say it because geographically
it was almost.
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Geographically because of the area. Yeah.
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my research it was saying that like
even if you live like even before
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the landslide disaster, Nelson
County was a Jeep area where you have
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basically had to have a jeep to go near
how you’ll drive.
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Yeah, yeah, I,
I have delivered pizzas around.
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Nelson county if you’re making a turn.
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sometimes you’re lucky
and you can see like somebody’s
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mailbox or some indication
of like a driveway or of a house.
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Right.
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But in rural areas, a lot of times
there’s just literally a dirt path, right?
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Like, it’s still hard to tell.
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But what I mean to say is,
like even in the 2000, it’s
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like we still have like if you compare
this to, say, Hurricane Katrina,
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I mean, if you think of Hurricane Camille
as more of a
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geologically created
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disaster in terms of the reaction to it.
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I mean,
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Just comparing it to that, it’s
I would consider
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that to be more of a manmade failure of.
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with Camille.
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The National Guard is there.
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I hear what you’re saying, Katrina.
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A lot of people after Katrina were saying
no one was helping us.
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People were stopped from helping them,
right?
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Yeah, right.
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And where we are, they’re having
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residents of the area
help them in the helicopters.
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Yeah for us.
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Yeah, Yeah.
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It’s just it’s interesting to me that way.
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40 years before, you.
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Know, I’m 30.
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put more effort towards it I guess. Yeah.
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Well after Camille.
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The response from Virginia
and from the country was amazing.
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one of the news stories
I read in Richmond,
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people were donating their unused cars
to the residents of Nelson County
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Post the disaster residents were given
trailer
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homes for 90 days,
which is not really that long of a time.
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But they were given trailer homes
to live in temporarily.
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Secondarily,
a huge Mennonite church community
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came in and helped a) build a church fee, b)
offered funerals to all the families.
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And c) helped people in
Massey’s Mill and Davis Creek
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There was a
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V dot organizer that said at one point
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he believes 50% of the Virginia Department
of Transport equipment and supplies
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and vehicles were all in Nelson county helping to restore the county.
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Also because of Hurricane Camille,
there was a
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the US Congress
passed the Disaster Relief Act of 1969
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in direct response to Hurricane Camille,
and that basically what this act does
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is it allows the president to shift
resources to help natural disasters.
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So one of the issues,
Hurricane Camille and Nelson
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County faced was when all this happened,
there was not a lot
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the government could immediately
technically do,
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and it took like one or two days
for them to like, get these helicopters
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there instead of like 30 minutes later,
like they would now, especially because
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Nelson County,
as it’s in Virginia, is really close
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to a lot of military bases
that do have the equipment to help out
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other things that happened
where there is a landmark
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commissioned near Wood Mill in Nelson
County memorializing the tragedy.
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There have been multiple books written,
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one called Torn Land,
one called The Roar of the Heavens.
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Multiple interviews,
multiple documentaries.
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So Another instance was
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The Red Cross gave a man and his horse an award
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because the man saved,
and his horse,
saved his mother from drowning
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the man’s name was Emory Fitzgerald
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Oh, I feel like that’s awakening
a really old memory
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But that is lovely,
It was cool to hear all the interviews about it
because you could tell,
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first of all,
everyone was talking with like an accent.
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Like I had a hard time understanding.
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If you’re on TV,
you like the ones they put on TV,
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the ones they interview
and have like the thickest accent.
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They do not put you on TV
unless you have an accent.
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Yeah.
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So these people have like
such thick accent and they were like,
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they were like,
they’d be like, Well, yeah.
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We got on the helicopters and we saved
the town the aftermath of it, too.
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Nelson County actually suffered
suffered economically.
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Two of the major employers in Nelson
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left after Hurricane Camille.
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I’m a bad researcher.
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I don’t know what those employers were.
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those employers left
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And because of that, Nelson
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County residents had to find jobs
in Lynchburg and Charlottesville.
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When interviewed about this, Sheriff
William Whitehead said
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people have left in regards
to find employment,
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but people want to live
and stay in the county.
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I guess it hits a.
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Little different with, like, for me,
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I do recognize the last names.
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Yeah, like in a lot of these,
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like you said at the beginning, but
like almost all of the people I probably
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all of the people mentioned, like,
their descendants are people I’ve known.
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Yeah.
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And so, like, that kind of trauma
lives in some kind of community.
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I want to go to the Oak Hill Cemetery
where most of the people that passed.
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I want to go there
for our B-roll for this one.
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okay. thank you for coming, Arlo.
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I feel like I chatted it way
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Too much,
but you have some great insights.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Hopefully you could be on the next fun
future ones if you’re into it.
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If you didn’t, if you didn’t like it,
I’ll tell you, this is fun.
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Okay?
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This is well,
this this topic is not funny.
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And yeah, it’s it’s yeah it’s interesting
to talk about it. It.
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Yeah.
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This fun in episode two which is lowkey
similar to this the Pocosin Mission.
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Yeah, both episodes researching it
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and like editing it and start are like
telling the story and stuff.
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It’s not like a ha ha, It’s like aHhh.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, I mean I guess like.
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accustomed to it again.
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Like a lot of these,
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like some of these things
I’ve been hearing since I was like
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old enough to hear, Yeah, I like it.
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It doesn’t hit as hard as it might have
done, but yeah, it still is very sobering.
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I it’s, yeah, definitely.
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Well you understand a little bit more
when you’re older.
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It definitely
makes it a lot harder to swallow.
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Yeah.
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last question of the pod
on a scale of 1 to 10 EHs
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One being not very scary,
ten being
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I’m so scared. Girl.
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How many years do you give Hurricane
Camille?
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God, I Yeah, Mother Nature.
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I think I’m going to give Mommy ten EHs
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I guess I give her ten Ehs too
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Like I’m scared.
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Yeah, Yeah.
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153 people dying.
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Yeah.
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More people died in Virginia
than in Mississippi,
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where the hurricane touched land.
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Initially, it wasn’t.
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It didn’t they say that was like a one
in 10,000 year storm?
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Yeah.
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They said the probability of
it was like 10,000 years.
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And Mother Nature is scary.
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Yeah, that’s. That’s
what I’m really scared of.
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You got nothing to fuck around with.
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Yeah, he.
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All right.
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Well, thank you, Arlo, and.
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Thank you for tuning into
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Elisha’s Eerie history. EHHHHH
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